ACE Compressor - Release Speed

[Jostein]

I realize that even the  FabFilter pics are not correct. They should have showed a decaying wave form between the attack and release phases. The way it is showed there, the release phase will not happen because the wave will not come under the threshold! My oh my, I take a brake! :-(

[madmaxmiller]

I realize that even the  FabFilter pics are not correct. They should have showed a decaying wave form between the attack and release phases. The way it is showed there, the release phase will not happen because the wave will not come under the threshold! My oh my, I take a brake! :-(

I noticed that, but somehow this thread had gone downhills already so I didn't bother. I do understand what you are after, in fact I did when you raised the question the first time, because it's logical to me.

Perhaps you could put two or three compressors in series, each one doing a part of the overall compression but have different release time points. That's, of course, extremely fiddly...

MMM

[arthie]

okay, there are not as many as I thought, which have hold, but this one is very good and has that option, so perhaps using that one instead helps you with your projects: https://www.flux.audio/project/pure-compressor/

[Jostein]

okay, there are not as many as I thought, which have hold, but this one is very good and has that option, so perhaps using that one instead helps you with your projects: https://www.flux.audio/project/pure-compressor/

The hold parameter is not what I'm after, the hold parameter will in general make the release process longer, not shorter. But after a very quick look, it seems to me that the PureCompressor has what I wanted given that it sounds right for the project. It's only one ore two issues: It's no Linux-version and it has the iLok-system.

[Jostein]

Perhaps you could put two or three compressors in series, each one doing a part of the overall compression but have different release time points. That's, of course, extremely fiddly...

Thankfully, I'm finished with the project. I draw audio curves on the wave file. This took a very long time. The CD is 72 minutes long. :-)

[Dingo]

@Jostein
I was looking around different plugin companies and stumbled on this item https://www.dmgaudio.com/products_compassion.php wondering if it gets close to what you are seeking ?

[sunrat]

That Compassion was mentioned on the page linked earlier. Very expensive.
Someone posted at Linux Musicians about this one - https://jonvaudio.com/fircomp/ . Has Win and Mac versions too. And free! It may be close to what Jostein was looking for:

One of FirComp’s secrets is the dual parallel release stage. Adjust the release time in milliseconds, then use the slider to fine-tune the program-dependent behavior. This will smooth out the signal without having to use multiple compressors simultaneously.

Bit more info at https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2021/01/04/fircomp/

[Jostein]

That Compassion was mentioned on the page linked earlier. Very expensive.
Someone posted at Linux Musicians about this one - https://jonvaudio.com/fircomp/ . Has Win and Mac versions too. And free! It may be close to what Jostein was looking for:

One of FirComp’s secrets is the dual parallel release stage. Adjust the release time in milliseconds, then use the slider to fine-tune the program-dependent behavior. This will smooth out the signal without having to use multiple compressors simultaneously.

Bit more info at https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2021/01/04/fircomp/

Thanks for the tip, I will test it as soon as I can. I see that FirComp is one of them who are using the term "Release Time", which is the same as "Release" on the ACE Compressor, and as I said before, somebody have even used the two terms in one single article/tutorial. No wonder people are confused!

[Jostein]

@Jostein
I was looking around different plugin companies and stumbled on this item https://www.dmgaudio.com/products_compassion.php wondering if it gets close to what you are seeking ?

Nice Dingo!  :-)

After reading the manual, it looks like the "Release Parameters" and/or "Auto-Release Parameters" might do the trick. The compressor is expensive, but worth it in my opinion, if it in general sounds as musically and good as U-he's Presswerk.

It's only one bad thing about it from my point of view, there's no Linux version, so I will not consider it at the moment. The last project I mixed (mainly gongs and hand drums) is so far the only time where I wanted a control like this, but now as I'm aware about it, I might still miss it in the future! :-)

[sunrat]

I see that FirComp is one of them who are using the term "Release Time", which is the same as "Release" on the ACE Compressor, and as I said before, somebody have even used the two terms in one single article/tutorial. No wonder people are confused!

Sorry but I see the two terms as identical and don't understand how there could be confusion. Release initialisation is a function of fall in signal level and set threshold, so whether the control is marked "Release" or "Release Time" is irrelevant. Thinking about it a little more, maybe you mean you want a different threshold for release than attack? eg. compression starts at -6dB and begins to reduce at -9dB. That would need a more descriptive name like "Release Threshold".
I promise to say no more.   

I tried FirComp on a drums bus in Mixbus after I posted last night. Nice tightness at moderate compression and slamming it still seemed to remain clean with no distortion. The sidechain control is interesting, "DeHarsh" setting sounds a little like AirWindows "Smooth" although fairly subtle.