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Five Room Mic?
#1
Sheez...who uses five room mics? I guess somebody does because the session is loaded right now. 19 drum/percussion mics total.

This is where I really appreciate Polarity Optimizer. I miss that massively on my other DAW, especially when it reports an appreciable dB increase. I still do my own quick check, but it's incredibly handy.

I'm going to be ordering a Harrison coffee cup and T-shirt at the end of the month! Woohoo!

Donny
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#2
A lot of Engineers do it because Broadcast has moved into Surround thanks to Digital Broadcasting and Streaming companies like Netflix etc.
So most of the Composers I've been working with have a workflow that allows for that, because they all work in Cinema or Broadcast and the gulf between those mediums is shrinking.
Some do it so they get the ability to add room and then evan more distant room. Look to what Phil Spector did with his 'wall of sound' which he obtained using multiple room microphones.
Bowie and Tony Visconti used a gated three microphone technique on 'Heroes' that gave it that signature 'sound'
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#3
Aha! See what little I know! Hahaha! Smile
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#4
I love a clear stereo - or multi channel -- image. When i close my eyes i want to be able to pinpoint a hit on the snare or a cymbal. Just like a drummer hears exactly where he hits.

To me room mikes and overhead mikes makes the image fuzzy. One can hear it but not where it is.
I record drums with a single xy pair.
Drummers love it : because they hear the kit they play.
I have done sourround type recordings. But than i had FX intruments on those specific channels.

I did some ballet where i had speakers behand stage , left right : Left right High (ceiling) amd left right from the back.
I was exciting to hear sounds coming from the back and move forward.

I always look very jealously to the MPC-5 console, with its object pan. The youtube explanation to me is pure soundengineers pornography..

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Frank W. Kooistra

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(03-16-2018, 07:10 PM)Frank Wrote: I love a clear stereo - or multi channel -- image. When i close my eyes i want to be able to pinpoint a hit on the snare or a cymbal. Just like a drummer hears exactly where he hits.

To me room mikes and overhead mikes makes the image fuzzy. One can hear it but not where it is.
I record drums with a single xy pair.
Drummers love it : because they hear the kit they play.
I have done sourround type recordings. But than i had FX intruments on those specific channels.

I did some ballet where i had speakers behand stage , left right : Left right High (ceiling) amd left right from the back.
I was exciting to hear sounds coming from the back and move forward.

I always look very jealously to the MPC-5 console, with its object pan. The youtube explanation to me is pure soundengineers pornography..

Regards

Bahaha! That is awesome! I just took at look at the MPC-5...wow...just wow. This is just such another level...I would not even know how to power that thing on...just light years beyond me. The biggest mix I've ever touched seems so utterly minuscule. This is the first time I've seen that video and I'm kind of blown away and have a new respect for these folks. Lots of green on those interfaces too that look just like the XT plugins. And this especially: https://youtu.be/OSaXm61qyKA?t=7m1s

And here I was complaining about five room mics! LMAO! What a hoot! You guys probably got a good chuckle with that. I wonder how many pages that manual is?

Donny
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(03-16-2018, 08:59 PM)doncolga Wrote: Bahaha! That is awesome! I just took at look at the MPC-5...wow...just wow. This is just such another level...I would not even know how to power that thing on...just light years beyond me. The biggest mix I've ever touched seems so utterly minuscule. This is the first time I've seen that video and I'm kind of blown away and have a new respect for these folks. Lots of green on those interfaces too that look just like the XT plugins. And this especially: https://youtu.be/OSaXm61qyKA?t=7m1s

And here I was complaining about five room mics! LMAO! What a hoot! You guys probably got a good chuckle with that. I wonder how many pages that manual is?

Donny

That movie should be forbidden.

You know Nik used an MPC-5 as a stand for his Lemur controller ?

And they have not shown the racks of (linux) computers which power it,

Five room mikes ? I wonder it is more about precise placement of reproduction systems.

If you want to spread a sound over multiple speakers, than you need very precise audio image.
and not audio sources which have several room images prepacked.

If you are too late in ordering what is in the box, there is a MPC-5 in the background.
Can we get that Pic ?
regards

Frank
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