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Hi,
I am demoing Presswerk ( Mixbus 3.7 and AV Linux 2016.8) for a few days and must say it sounds really good to my ears I am thinking about purchase... but when I put Presswerk on master channel and engage Limiter mode to get final loudness I get overshoots (clipping) on master channel. (master fader set to 0.. no other plugins on master)
Limiter output is set to -0.45 dbFS but Mixbus reads -0.1 dbFS and I get overshoots (this is not happening with Calf limiter and LSP limiter)
Did you expirienced something simmilar? Is Presswerk limiter mode brickwall limiter?
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Hi Drazen,
I use Presswerk all the time, when you have the Limiter Window open is it clipping into the red on the 'Input' side? Sometimes I have to trim the Input side before the Limiter. Also Presswerk sounds great but it can get kind of nasty if you get in excess of -8.00db, secondly are you sure that Mixbus' native Master limiter is disabled?
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Hi GMaq,
Presswerk is not clipping on the input and Mixbus master limiter is disabled.
I shoot for just 2-3db of reduction.
I run Presswerk in DEMO mode (limitation is that plugin introduce random noises every 20 seconds as a protection) so that may cause an overshoot but still metering issue stays the same.... Presswerk output is set to -0.45dbFS but Mixbus reads -0.1dbFS and then overshoots. (when I put Calf or LSP limiter on master, Mixbus reads exactly the same number as set on limiters output)
Did you experienced that behavior?
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Hi jonetsu,
number on bottom right... on master channel show dbFS (in your picture meter shows -1.5 )
when I put limiter on master fader and set desired final output Mixbus always reads it right... but with Presswerk.... final output on limiter does not corresponds to number that Mixbus reads
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I see. Yes it's a bit puzzling. I'm at odds currently with metering. This year I will try to have an output that can be compared to commercial productions and metering accuracy is important I find. Some people say just go with your ears but I don't think it's enough.
Another question here would be why is this peak value remaining at -1.5 when Presswerk's output is cranked all the way up, the Mixbus limiter engages, the K-14 meter is almost at the top, and distortion is heard all over. But the recorded peak stays at -1.5. Must be some kind of imposed ceiling.
Also, another related question would be what is the benefit of not having K-14 meters all accross the tracks and busses meters as the default Mixbus configuration is made of ?
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Hi jonetsu,
Mixbus limiter has fixed output to -1dbFS so if you are using another limiter on master channel, disengage Mixbus master limiter.
Having two limiters on master, one set to -1dbFS (built in limiter) and other set to -0.1 or similar (Presswerk) is not a good idea... because you are pushing limiter with higher output into limiter with a lower output....
Try this: disengage builtin limiter and put Presswerk on master, set Preswerks output to -0.3 dbFS and go for loudness that is ok for you ( monitoring K-14 meter) ... do you get overshoots?
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